my path to self realisation.... part 2

So does this god answer prayers... does he give us what we ask for... why does he makes people suffer... yes.. If we're able to connect with this supreme force... it surely communicates with us.. He may not come out in the open and talk to you.. But we will be able to feel his presence... and about god granting us our wishes.... have we ever asked him something meaningful.... all we crave for is small nothings in this materialistic world... which when compared to the capabilities of the supreme sound way too insignificant.. like a pay hike.. a lottery prize... a wish to do well in something blah .. blah...

Why don't we ask something that makes some sense to him..... lolz... there is this saying that "god helps those who help themselves"... he's a guide who's always around... it has worked for me... many a times... more often 'am taught to fish.. rather than the fish being given in my hand. so that next time... I can just thank him for having me taught how to fish... same goes for everything from getting over grief... broken relations...failure...anger.. we need to learn to handle things,people and situations...



I ask Mr.X a favour which he promises to do.. but that 100 % faith in Mr.X isn’t there.. so I try some other means to get the same work done.. How does Mr.X feel when he gets to know of it..? let’s put ourselves in Mr.X’s shoes… do we like it when people don’t believe us completely… we lose interest in helping them.. don’t we….??? Same here..


When such undeterred faith we have in god, all.. I mean all our prayers are answered……..


this one incident struck me.. A couple in the apartment i lived gave birth to a child.. Paralyzed at birth... they nurtured him for two long years before he passed away.. they were people really good at heart.. god believing... sweet people... why should it happen to them.... and I was young then.. doing my 10th i guess... so when this came up for discussion in our adda a couple of years later... a person told me.. that child was born into that family b'coz god knew it would be taken care of.. come what may... those people would not spare any efforts. to bring it up like any other kid... what if the child had been born into some other family which left the kid at the doorstep of an orphanage...?

i'd suggest one small thing to all of you guys reading this... irrespective of whether you are a believer.. agnostic.. atheist... staunch follower of god.... that's personal to people... do once in a while make your way to an orphanage.. an old aged home.. or a home for the disabled.... a spastic society...you do not have to carry cash or stuff to go there.. u can just go and help them out physically.. jus visit one with an open mind... of just looking around.... i bet anything on this god damned world... it'll change ur life forever... it'll change the perception of how you look at life... it definitely did change mine...


coming to think of why there's evil in this world... I've been born near to perfect rather perfect i shud say.. i have no disabilities; all my sensory organs work fine.. am perfectly hale and very much healthy... why are some people on earth born deaf ,dumb, blind... or others wid some sort of chronic illnesses... there ate two views about this... why them... and why not me...

why them.. for me to learn from…
why not me.. to help such people out… sounds nice …. and what do we gain out of it.. self satisfaction.. that feeling of happiness,bliss ...

So now can this god be omnipresent...... for all those who've been in love or been loved... by anybody whatsoever... when you are in a relationship.. however far your partner might be physically, don't you feel his/her presence with you/within you all the time... we seem to communicate to the other person without any physical/technological medium.... that's because there is this connection that makes it happen...what is this connection made of.. faith,trust,love and respect..sounds like telepathy....?? maybe... and if that sorta understanding doesn't exist in a relation.. take it from me.. it's nuthing more than a crush...

Now let’s leave alone all that.. when we are able to continuously feel the presence of a human .. within us... more like omnipresent... why not god...? hmm... beacuse we don't think about all these stuff... and we don't even bother to listen.. so if the presence of a human can be felt everywhere... there's no question about not applying the same to god...


One other bad habit of people who believe in him... we turn to him only in times of distress..when nothing goes our way.. we pray.. why on earth don't we thank him when everything goes fine... say a silent prayer then again... we have this dinner at a very posh restaurant.. pay a huge bill and when you come out.. a beggar asks you for alms... we either walk away or toss him a coin... do we bother to thank god for that morsel of food that we just had... which this poor beggar can't afford...??>??


All this disparity has been created to make us count our blessings and realise the true mission for which we've been born.... not just to eat.. sleep.. drink.. dance ... and make merry.. all these can be part of life.. not the goal in life..

we humans with this 6th sense that helps us think..[ and think way too crooked most of the times, which i what i guess i do] never realize the worth of anything unless it is absent… worth of shade s not realized unless there is this sun beating down upon us... the worth of water unless there is thirst... food unless there is hunger... love unless there is hatred...generosity unless there is miserliness.... and so on... same goes for heat and cold, darkness and light,

so for us to realize the worth of the creation of the supreme creator, these qualities have also been created by him... what is that feeling that goes thru us wen we see a child smile... why do we feel great wen we'r showered with love....we do smile on getting to eat our fav ice cream...
in days when people[read lay man] needed to be taken to god.. a belief of god needed to be instilled, maybe man created this concept of heaven and hell... good and sin... which i guess worked... man does things either out of interest or out of fear... :)

this approach isn't for people who understand and not for atheists anyway.. they’re way ahead of all of us... 'coz they put their brain to use... they’re not dumb like me to believe in god and religion just because they were born into Hinduism/Christianity/Islam/any other religion for that matter.... and these beliefs were sown into me without choice.. though i don't regret it today...to say the truth...

To all you atheists out there, you guys are well ahead of all of us who believe in god.. since you believe in yourselves , persistence, hard work and do not feel the need for this god, you guys need to discover the real “you” .. that’s what you guys believe in anyway……. Don’t u guys waste ur time in probing into these beliefs.. atheist or theists, the goal is self realization…. You guys have already bye-passed all these paths we need to take.. to reach the real goal… in life.. just get there…

To those who don’t believe in god…. Cheers… god believes in you.. realize yourself..
To those who don’t need god, you were created for a certain reason.. and god does not come to you directly.. he manifests himself in various forms… which is not realized/recognized…

My biggest learning….. “There’s always a theist in an atheist”….

Others in search of the self... watch out for more…. At some later point of time..

Cheers..!!!
S

concluded......[as of now...]

my path to self realisation...... part 1

To all those who believe in god....those who don't..(include those who don't feel the need for god).. those out to discover god.. and those on the path to self realisation...!! experiences of probing into the essence of the cause of why one is born.... lives and dies.... and beyond.....

Though the idea of god,rituals,prayers were ploughed into me at a very young age.. an age very young to question things... when my stupid brain started thinking on it's own.. things began to turn a different way... lots n lots n lots of question.. many unanswered till date.. a few answered.. led to arguements n debates.. which got me nowhere or rather progress was too very slow...

So now am on a diff path of analysing things and it's helping me so far..

reason this post is out here.. one of my good buddies turned a atheist.. (congrats!!!)..... n i was discussing what an atheist's view was .... god... who..? why..? how...? howcome? necessary....? bullshit... n all these stuff.... guess i've been thru these questions.. and mayb i cud just post my learning..

.... err.. so who's this god... can we define god.... No we can't... an exact definition of god can never be given... one of the learned people i asked this question shot back a question @ me...
"what is a line ?"
what is a line..sounds dumb right.. for a person who's done Engg. .. so here i was defining a line..."it's the locus of points..which starts with a point and ends with another point.. with a straight curve...and is uni-dimentional".. pat came the next question.. "define a point..".... i had no answers...(all i remember telling him was it was 0 dimensional)
i had to go back to my basics of geometry to search for answers... and i found none properly satisfying.... definition of a point is an axiom which needs to be accepted.. without which all theorems would fail.. so i shud say... maths assumes the entity of a point for all practical purposes....we can only describe the nature of a point... but not the point in itself...
Similarly i learnt we can describe the nature of divinity..or god whatever.. but cannot define him in finite terms...

is god the faith that people have in him...? yes..no.. maybe... faith is something that is inborn in each and every living being..a child has faith in it's mother.. a pet in it's master... a patient in d doc...passengers in d driver.. so on n so forth.. so there's no denying the presence of faith... but y faith in god..? after all all people are human.. and if humans could control everything.. they'd really be super powerful right..?

so is this god super powerful..let's consider the universe.. who created it... if the big bang theory created it.. then who created the big bang theory... which in turn led to the chain reaction of creating it's smaller entities by itself...? the atmosphere.. galaxies... planets.. their orbits... the extent of the atmosphere wherein it holds the gases that sustain us.. why is the earth not any closer to the sun.. where it would have got all d water on earth evaporated.. or any farther where all heat and light would have ceased, and water frozen... there are things natural to us... so we call them part of nature... but the architect behind this... who'z tat...

consider the 5 elements of nature.. colorless,odourless water...a necessity for any living organism...air with d right composition of hydrogen,oxygen nitrogen ..CO2 and other gases,rocks(earth) which contain the minerals required to sustain vegetation...fire... that provides heat and light.... and the absence of all these.. vacuum... these were discovered by man.. but created by some supreme creator....

some supreme creator also created this biological body of ours... a brain that can process a million thoughts per second.... a body with blood vessels whose total length put together is close to 35 Km...a heart that sustains this body thruout...all the other systems.. respiratory.. excretory.. reproductive n stuff... bio mechanics...bones.. joints.. tendons and ligaments that support 'em.. which stand our body weight and much more...

Mind you.. all these were created by that supreme creator... not just for man... for all the supposed 84000,00,00,000 living organisms.. right from an amoeba to a mammoth... so how small would the heart of an ant look.. how does it work....? doesn't it not have a mechanism of it's own..?? is man capable of creating the same....

surprisingly these 84000,00,00,000 organism's reproductive cycle is classified into just 4 types... all this is scientific proof ok......
1.those that give birth/reproduce by seeds sown into the soil
2.those non-vertebrae like worms,lizards .. and their reproductive ways..
3.those that reproduce by laying eggs
4.the ones which give birth by gestation of the new born in a womb....

i tried to find something outside these four.. just for argument's sake.. to no avail...

As lord kelvin once cited that the more longer and deeper he delved into science he could not help but admire the creations of the supreme.. which went beyond the purview of scientific explanation..!!!!

god is thus the supreme creator,a supernatural power..which cannot be explained.... but what of his qualities... he's omnipotent, being the supreme creator.. he'd be knowing everything.. so he'd be omniscient..( i do not wish to bring omnipresent into the picture here.. 'coz that's realisation of the self)... he transcends knowledge....

now to the other qualities attributed to god... all of us have a basic sense of right or wrong.. or morality in other words... all qualities attributed to morality... kindness,generosity,righteousness etc etc... are attributed to him... as all religions prescribe these values as the way of the world.. so thus he's also credited with omnibenevolence.....
we do not have to believe in sin .. hell or heaven to be morally right..right?

To be contd...

P.S:Will get back after dinner tonight.. or tomorrow probllly....
Cheers!!
S

Differently-abled..... ????

Every morning... on my way to work.. i walk something around 3 Km... which is d distance between home n office.... i start early.. walk at my own pace... enjoyin n observing people n stuff around me.....people racing against time .. to get to work... the metro trains... children on their way to school... restaurants buzzing with activity .... the odd cow drawn cart.. the cobbler spreading out his tools.. expecting business for d day...from sum1 like me who walks by....

it was sometime back.. long back i guess...3-4 months ago.. i saw this Blind person... i'd rather call him a person with a third eye.... lets call him DA... ok... walking slowly.. slower than me... with his stick or whatever.... u call it.. i dunno the name.... on the same way to my office....
dunno wat came about me.. i just offered to help him on his way..... so here was i.. escorting DA to wherever he intented to go.... n left him somewhere he wanted to go... that was that....
we didn't exchange words.. not even 1.. other than the place wer he was going and a heartfelt "thanks" from him....

i had totally forgotten abt this incident... wen this monday.. i happened to see this person..another third eyed.. i didn't even recognize his face... so dumb of me... when i offered to help him.. his happily agreed.... i held his hand... and we had just taken a few steps together when he stopped.... turned as if to look at me n said .. "sir.. have you helped be once before...?"
i was like"err.. i don remember..."
he shot back at me saying.. "i know u've helped me out before.. i can feel ur hand... it's d same..... mayb u don't recollect me..."...

i was dumfound.... neverthless i asked him where he was going when he said"just hold my hand sir.. i'll tell u d directions"..we started walking again...i let myself be guided by this person to a common junction..where we parted ways... and i reached office... that whole morning.. i couldn't concentrate on work.. coming to think of this incident... can sumone who just held my hand for 10 mins.. 4 months ago... recognize me...? just by touch...

what is this guy... Blind.... No way........!! i don't think he considers the fact that he can't see as a disability.. i won't b able to recognize someone lik tattt... will i b able to tell a Rs.100 note from a Rs.500 note.. blindfolded... No way..... But i guess he can ....
I admire the sheer will power of these people to take on life.....!!!! It's just child's play for them....

and what am i cribbing for in life haan..... i need no goddamn reason to crib.. i just need to be grateful to lord almighty for all the good things in life...!!! Dhanyosmi....!!!

Cheers..!!
S

Amazin math.. contd..

This is more of astronomy where the age of the universe till date is said,then the geographic locations where the ritual is being performed and then the physical conditions of the said location.
Ground level stats:
There are 4 yugas described in our scriptures.
Kali yuga having 432000 years
Dvapara yuga consisting of 864000(432000*2) years
Treata yuga of 1296000(432000*3) years
Sathya/kritha yuga with 1728000(432000*4) years
Adding all of ‘em together 1 chaturyuga or the combined duration of the above epochs are 4320000 years.

Now we know that Bramha is believed to be the creator. The lifetime of bramha is 100 years,each year with 360 days each.
1 day of Bramha is divided into 2 parts called Kalpa where 1 Kalpa is the duration of the Day and the other is the duration of Night of a full day of Bramha’s.
In turn 1 kalpa is divided into 14 manvantaras or manus who rule their respective period.
Each manvantara consists of 71 chatur yugas…
After each manu there is a resting period or sandhi kala of duration of 1728000 years
Summing all these up…
1 Chatur yuga = 4320000 years
1 manvantara=4320000*71= 306720000 years
14 manvataras = 14 * 306720000= 4294080000 years
1 kalpa(14 manvantara+15 sandhi kala)= 4294080000 + (15*1728000)= 4320000000 years
2 kalpas or 1 day of Bramha = 4320000000*2= 8640000000 Years
360 days / 1 year of Bramha’s lifetime = 8640000000 * 360 = 3110400000000 years
Lifetime of Bramha (100 years)= 3110400000000 * 100 = 311040000000000 years…!!!!!!!
so the meaning of the sankalpa is indeed this calculation which gives us the present day age of this universe...

Shubhe shobhane aadya bramhanah: - the creator bramha
Dviteeya parardhae - in the second half of his lifetime
Shweta varaha kalpe - in the kalpa called shwetavaraha
Vaivasvata manvantare - in the manu rules by vaivasvatha
Ashtavimshati tame - 28000 years of which have elapsed so far
Kali yuge Prathame Paade - in the 1st quarter of kali yuga
Jambu Dveepe - in the geographical location of jambu dveepa
Bharatha varushe bharatah: Khande - in the khanda or continent ruled by king bharata
Meroho: dakshine paarshve shakabdhe - south of the Mt.Meru
Asmin varthamane vYaavaharike - in the cycle which changes
Prabhavaadi shasthi samvatsaranam Madhye - in the cycle of 60 years starting with prabahava,vibhava
(Sarvadhaari) Naama Samvathsare - in the year known as sarvadhaari
(Dakshin)aayane - in the period where the sun moves towards the tropic of capricon
(Varusha)ritou - in the rainy season
(Ashweena)Maase - month of ashwina
(Shukla)Pakshe - in the waxing period of the moon
(Prathamyaam) shubha thithou - 1st day of the waxing period
(mangala) varsarah:the specific day whatever .. as applicable.....

phew..... never knew there would be so much to such a small verse..
need to go hog somethin nw.. i'm tired already....!!!
Cheers....!!!
S

amazin math... puts all ya calcs to shame.....!!!

This has been buggin me for a loooooon time now…. It’s been nearly 2 months since I started working on this lik mad… n still am only half way thru… there are lotsa unanswered queries that lie within me…. Answers for which I’ve been seeking… but looks lyk it’s gonna tak a epoch to get them answered…unless I’m able to find satisfying answers prior that...
In olden days it was believed people, hindus rather were forbidden from tarvelling abroad… by crossing the seas… why or how this came about..what are the logical reasons behind such ideas is what I’m looking for… I don’t believe things without a proper, sensible reason, and I don’t violate such customs/traditions whatever u may wanna call them.. until MY reason reasons me out…
In order to get to either following these beliefs or violate them asap… I’d prefer to go behind the cause…
So that’s how I get here.. now this post might b quite boring if u hate maths… and people who love maths…. Jus pick up a pen and a piece of paper.. or open up an excel sheet on your comp… calculators are of no use here.. belive me….
Now I got to asking a few learned people as to y people are forbidden from crossing the seas…
Answer 1 :
There is a ritual called a sankalpa(m) which is done by all hindus before performing any religious act.. and as per this sankalpa.. the karma bhoomi or land of karma is the land south of Mt.Meru… -- why is only this land d karma bhoomi is my next question for which I get no logical answer..
Answer 2:
In olden days people needed to travel by sea…(before the tym of flights).. sea voyages wer risky.. vegetarians had lotsa issues finding veg food in foreigh lands… change of climate affected people.. sea voyages for months sucked n blah blah… I might accept this half heartedly.. quarter heartedly rather.. but that aint enuf… am not satisfied…

I got into getting to the roots of what this sankalpa meant… this is eatin up wat too much of my head..

This sankalpa is more like a preamble or a plan as to what ritual is gonna be performed…
For those who wanna knw the actual words.. here it is…
Mamopatha samastha dirithakshayadvaara
Sri parameshwara preethyartham…
Shubhe shobhane aadya bramhanah:
Dviteeya parardhae
Shweta varaha kalpe
Vaivasvata manvantare
Ashtavimshati tame
Kali yuge Prathame Paade
Jambu Dveepe
Bharatha varushe bharatah: Khande
Meroho: dakshine paarshve shakabdhe
Asmin varthamane vYaavaharike
Prabhavaadi shasthi samvatsaranam Madhye
(Sarvadhaari) Naama Samvathsare
(Dakshin)aayane
(Varusha)ritou
(Ashweena)Maase
(Shukla)Pakse
(Prathamyaam) shubha thithou
(mangala) varsarah:

Etc etc…
Now to the real meaning.. which i guess will b on my next post..

to b continued...

S